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		<title>Comment on Does Anyone Remember? by Lorena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, lately History is  looking to attract a brainless viewership, I think. It&#039;s too bad.

ESPN, too, used to have real sports programs, like hockey and tennis. Unfortunately, college football, the only sport they still cover consistently, doesn&#039;t appeal to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, lately History is  looking to attract a brainless viewership, I think. It&#8217;s too bad.</p>
<p>ESPN, too, used to have real sports programs, like hockey and tennis. Unfortunately, college football, the only sport they still cover consistently, doesn&#8217;t appeal to me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Does Anyone Remember? by Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still waiting for the day when all the sports programming on ESPN is replaced with exclusively bowling, chess, poker matches, and World of Warcraft competitions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still waiting for the day when all the sports programming on ESPN is replaced with exclusively bowling, chess, poker matches, and World of Warcraft competitions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Booklist 2009 # 15: The Catcher in the Rye by J. D. Salinger (Re-read) by TIMOTHY WALSH</title>
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		<dc:creator>TIMOTHY WALSH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the age of 66 I actually managed to get around to reading The Catcher In The Rye. It had been on my &quot;recommended&quot; reading list going back to my university days 46 years ago. But somehow I never got down to it. Anyway, last week on holiday in the Philippines its was mission accomplished!
It was a big disappointment though. All the various reviews on its perspectives of a youth cynically alienated from growing up in a materialistic US society, I could live with. The emotional backlash of losing a younger brother I could sympathise with.
What I did not appreciate was the standard of the conversational dialogue. Other writers like Hemingway adopt the same approach but look at the difference. For example; review the pathos in For Whom The Bell Tolls when Pilar says words to the effect; &quot; You cannot understand what it is to be born an ugly woman &amp; yet know inside thyself that thou art beautiful&quot; Or even for that matter Raymond Chandler whose dialogue is sharp, perceptive &amp; balanced.
Now, all I have to do is get around to reading Brighton Rock, even though over the years I&#039;ve read most of his other work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the age of 66 I actually managed to get around to reading The Catcher In The Rye. It had been on my &#8220;recommended&#8221; reading list going back to my university days 46 years ago. But somehow I never got down to it. Anyway, last week on holiday in the Philippines its was mission accomplished!<br />
It was a big disappointment though. All the various reviews on its perspectives of a youth cynically alienated from growing up in a materialistic US society, I could live with. The emotional backlash of losing a younger brother I could sympathise with.<br />
What I did not appreciate was the standard of the conversational dialogue. Other writers like Hemingway adopt the same approach but look at the difference. For example; review the pathos in For Whom The Bell Tolls when Pilar says words to the effect; &#8221; You cannot understand what it is to be born an ugly woman &amp; yet know inside thyself that thou art beautiful&#8221; Or even for that matter Raymond Chandler whose dialogue is sharp, perceptive &amp; balanced.<br />
Now, all I have to do is get around to reading Brighton Rock, even though over the years I&#8217;ve read most of his other work!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Does Anyone Remember? by EL Fay</title>
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		<dc:creator>EL Fay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You forgot to mention all the UFO crap and the reality shows like &lt;i&gt;Ice Road Truckers&lt;/i&gt; (which is a great show, but has nothing to do with history).

I think most of their old history programming was actually WWII programming. What about WWI? Does anyone remember? Does anyone care?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You forgot to mention all the UFO crap and the reality shows like <i>Ice Road Truckers</i> (which is a great show, but has nothing to do with history).</p>
<p>I think most of their old history programming was actually WWII programming. What about WWI? Does anyone remember? Does anyone care?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Booklist 2009 # 51 &#8211; 56 by mortalterror</title>
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		<dc:creator>mortalterror</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love West and Donne.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Does Anyone Remember? by mortalterror</title>
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		<dc:creator>mortalterror</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That bothers me too. I think there&#039;s also a reality show about logging on there too now. I love how sometimes they&#039;ll show a Hollywood movie like Braveheart, Gladiator, or 300 and pretend it&#039;s factual. Your quandary is similar to asking if anyone remembers when MTV still played music videos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That bothers me too. I think there&#8217;s also a reality show about logging on there too now. I love how sometimes they&#8217;ll show a Hollywood movie like Braveheart, Gladiator, or 300 and pretend it&#8217;s factual. Your quandary is similar to asking if anyone remembers when MTV still played music videos.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fifty Book Challenge Met for 2009 by bluevictim</title>
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		<dc:creator>bluevictim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A new area of study may be just the thing for those times when you feel aimless.  I wish you all the luck.

I might be able to think of ways to help you if you let me know what, in particular, about the certain disciplines in science and sociology piqued your interest.  Feel free to email me.  What I&#039;ve found about self-study is that company is by far the most helpful tool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A new area of study may be just the thing for those times when you feel aimless.  I wish you all the luck.</p>
<p>I might be able to think of ways to help you if you let me know what, in particular, about the certain disciplines in science and sociology piqued your interest.  Feel free to email me.  What I&#8217;ve found about self-study is that company is by far the most helpful tool.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fifty Book Challenge Met for 2009 by Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I might actually start with high school math. When I was last in NY I purchased Math A and Math B regents review books and practice tests. It made sense in my mind to start there because 10th grade when was my math abilities plummeted. So I am going to use those books to start and work my way up.

Then when and if I want to progress further I&#039;ll figure it out. I am really interested in getting my math skills up to speed so I can understand the mathematical manipulations in certain disciplines in science and sociology. 

I&#039;m still figuring out where I am going to fit all of this into my schedule. I haven&#039;t done it yet, but my reading in general has dropped recently too. I&#039;ve been busy with work and other life stuff, and when not busy with that I have been feeling rather . . . aimless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I might actually start with high school math. When I was last in NY I purchased Math A and Math B regents review books and practice tests. It made sense in my mind to start there because 10th grade when was my math abilities plummeted. So I am going to use those books to start and work my way up.</p>
<p>Then when and if I want to progress further I&#8217;ll figure it out. I am really interested in getting my math skills up to speed so I can understand the mathematical manipulations in certain disciplines in science and sociology. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m still figuring out where I am going to fit all of this into my schedule. I haven&#8217;t done it yet, but my reading in general has dropped recently too. I&#8217;ve been busy with work and other life stuff, and when not busy with that I have been feeling rather . . . aimless.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fifty Book Challenge Met for 2009 by bluevictim</title>
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		<dc:creator>bluevictim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations on achieving your goal of 50 books.  It&#039;s quite impressive that you wrote reviews of all of them, too.

I would definitely encourage you to deepen your understanding of math, for three reasons:

1)  It&#039;s useful.

I kind of disagree with mortalterror about math being useless for non-scientists/engineers.  In fact, I contend that math is more useful for a non-scientist/engineer than literary theory is for anyone who isn&#039;t a professor in literature.  I believe this is true even for &quot;non-useful&quot; math like number theory or differential topology or set theory.  The authority of the &quot;hard&quot; sciences in dictating what people believe today rivals that of the Medieval Church, and rigorous mathematics is essential in all of the sciences (indeed, rigorous mathematics is an essential part of why the &quot;hard&quot; sciences are so authoritative).  Without some insight into how math works, it is difficult to understand the limits of science.  If you have an interest in philosophy and logic, mathematics is especially important because a large part of modern philosophy is mathematical logic.  Indeed, in speaking of logic in distinction from rhetoric, one is really speaking of mathematical logic.

2)  It&#039;s interesting, even beautiful.

Unfortunately, if your primary exposure to math is from high school in the USA, there&#039;s a good chance you don&#039;t know what math is really about (speaking in general, of course -- I don&#039;t know you, and you seem to be an independent learner, so you&#039;re probably actually ahead on the curve).  A deeper understanding of math might open up a whole new kind of aesthetic experience.  Mathematicians and scientists are always striving for &quot;elegance&quot;, which is an aesthetic and intuitive aspect that goes beyond correctness and is quite satisfying.

3)  I&#039;m curious.

I&#039;ve encountered many people with technical backgrounds (i.e., with mathematical training) who developed an interest in some field of the humanities and pursued it to a fairly advanced level, but I have not yet encountered anyone with a background in the humanities pursue a technical field (i.e., one that requires mathematical training) later in life to a level equivalent to an undergraduate curriculum.  I&#039;m very curious about how you would approach it, and how you progress and keep yourself motivated.  I think it would definitely be worth the effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations on achieving your goal of 50 books.  It&#8217;s quite impressive that you wrote reviews of all of them, too.</p>
<p>I would definitely encourage you to deepen your understanding of math, for three reasons:</p>
<p>1)  It&#8217;s useful.</p>
<p>I kind of disagree with mortalterror about math being useless for non-scientists/engineers.  In fact, I contend that math is more useful for a non-scientist/engineer than literary theory is for anyone who isn&#8217;t a professor in literature.  I believe this is true even for &#8220;non-useful&#8221; math like number theory or differential topology or set theory.  The authority of the &#8220;hard&#8221; sciences in dictating what people believe today rivals that of the Medieval Church, and rigorous mathematics is essential in all of the sciences (indeed, rigorous mathematics is an essential part of why the &#8220;hard&#8221; sciences are so authoritative).  Without some insight into how math works, it is difficult to understand the limits of science.  If you have an interest in philosophy and logic, mathematics is especially important because a large part of modern philosophy is mathematical logic.  Indeed, in speaking of logic in distinction from rhetoric, one is really speaking of mathematical logic.</p>
<p>2)  It&#8217;s interesting, even beautiful.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, if your primary exposure to math is from high school in the USA, there&#8217;s a good chance you don&#8217;t know what math is really about (speaking in general, of course &#8212; I don&#8217;t know you, and you seem to be an independent learner, so you&#8217;re probably actually ahead on the curve).  A deeper understanding of math might open up a whole new kind of aesthetic experience.  Mathematicians and scientists are always striving for &#8220;elegance&#8221;, which is an aesthetic and intuitive aspect that goes beyond correctness and is quite satisfying.</p>
<p>3)  I&#8217;m curious.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve encountered many people with technical backgrounds (i.e., with mathematical training) who developed an interest in some field of the humanities and pursued it to a fairly advanced level, but I have not yet encountered anyone with a background in the humanities pursue a technical field (i.e., one that requires mathematical training) later in life to a level equivalent to an undergraduate curriculum.  I&#8217;m very curious about how you would approach it, and how you progress and keep yourself motivated.  I think it would definitely be worth the effort.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fifty Book Challenge Met for 2009 by Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 00:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mortalterror, you&#039;re alive! I hope you&#039;re move went well. 

Yeah, there is always so much to study. I admit my desire to improve my math skills stems from my desire to learn more about Sociology, Logic, and various sciences. I understand the rhetoric, big picture stuff of a lot of these disciplines, but I  want to be able to understand some of the math components to these disciplines as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mortalterror, you&#8217;re alive! I hope you&#8217;re move went well. </p>
<p>Yeah, there is always so much to study. I admit my desire to improve my math skills stems from my desire to learn more about Sociology, Logic, and various sciences. I understand the rhetoric, big picture stuff of a lot of these disciplines, but I  want to be able to understand some of the math components to these disciplines as well.</p>
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